Poll: School District Rushing to Make Decision About School Closures?
Some say the committee that is being asked to make a recommendation about school closures isn't being given enough time to make such a big decision that could affect the entire community.
The committee that has been tasked with making a recommendation about school closures for the San Bruno Park School District met on Wednesday to discuss how it would proceed with its meetings.
But the inevitable question came up: Is the committee being given enough time to make a decision?
The committee will be holding meetings twice a month until April 3, when it will have to decide which school should possibly be closed if the school board chooses to make a decision about the issue. The school board is then expected to take a final vote at its April 18 meeting.
But some parents said that is not enough time to make such a big decision that could affect their kids and the entire community.
What do you think?
Chris Kiely
11:09 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Martin:
One interesting twist. You'll recall there was a controversy last night over exactly what the Board did at its January meeting regarding this committee.
Apparently, the tape recorder was, coincidentally turned off just before that part of the agenda. So no recording is available.
Martin Ricard
11:18 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Wow! If that's true, I'm sure that will raise some eyebrows.
Joe Capote
11:28 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
From what I understand, that is not the only thing raising a few eyebrows. This has a real potential to get ugly. and fast.
Chris Kiely
11:46 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
This is an example of the public decision-making process at its worst. Committee trying to do a tough job, while prominent people on the Board and in the Administration are trying to slant the process.
Wish we weren't so accustomed to that with the SBPSD.
Joe Capote
1:13 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
You and I can agree on this issue, Chris. I, for one, am not happy with the way this smells at all. I encourage all SBPSD parents and community members to get involved by attending the meetings and reviewing the agenda's and notes via the district website at http://sbpsd.k12.ca.us/ddac.htm. The meeting schedule is posted here and meetings are open to the public.
Heidi Beck
8:38 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The district has criteria for the closing of a school ("adopted at a regular meeting of the Governing Board of the San Bruno Park School District on December 12, 2007," according to the district website). Whether these can all be objectively defined and applied at all, not to mention by April, is a whole 'nother story:
• Assess the least disruptive option to students and the community
• Assess the operating costs of each site, excluding the cost of staffing
• Assess the operational and prospective maintenance cost schedule for each site
• Assess the potential for revenue generation of each site, if closed
• Consider the level of safety in changing “walking distance”
• Assess the prospects of transportation for getting to a different school site
• Determine the capacity of each school site to receive additional levels of enrollment, in “bricks and mortar” buildings
• Determine the capacity of each school site to receive additional levels of enrollment, in all buildings
• Determine the implications of reverting all students to their “home school”
Joe Capote
6:02 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Another thing to remember is that the district is in PI. In December and January the District Leadership Team comprised a multi-year plan to get the district out of PI. While district reconfiguation and school consilidation _should_ not directly impact that plan, the demographics of new students to any given school site need to be understood. If the school receives new numbers of special education or english language learners, then that school must have the cirriculum, materials and teachers in place to receive and support them. In this scenario, that would be as early as the 2012/2013 school year.
This discussion should be taking place during the planning process as well. I really don't believe that the district nor the DDAC has this issue anywhere near their radar.
Chris Kiely
10:15 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Actually Joe, there was a fair amount of discussion at the Committee meeting about how to evaluate things like achievement, within the guidelines the Board gave the Committee.
Some of the criteria Heidi quoted above are ambiguous enough that you could put specific academic impacts into the mix. The real problem is that academic issues affect closure consideration in several discrete ways.
1)Will education & achievement be better (or worse) in the District overall if a school (any school) is closed?
2)If some school is going to be closed, will the choice of WHICH school to close have any impact on education in the District?
3)If you decide to close some school, is the District ready to deal with all the issues that go with it? Special ed? ELL?
Which of these is within the scope of what the Committee is looking at, or could practically look at?
#2 is clearly the type of thing that they should look at. The criteria from the Board all seem aimed at making a choice between sites. Is there a concrete academic reason why one site should be considered for closure (compared to another site)? The Committee should look at that, along with all the other impacts mentioned above.
I'm not sure how you objectively weigh that though. Breaking up any community will cause some problems. I don't know how you can judge that it will be worse for Crestmoor kids to change school than for El Crystal kids.
Joe Capote
1:16 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I'm happy that they are discussing achievement, Chris. My point is whether or not they are they actively discussing student movement and consolidation as it relates to the district's PI status and the plan developed by the DLT.
Lani
11:03 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
After working in the area schools for years, I vote that they be called to task on the hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown away each year. The discarding of previous year's supplies in order to qualify for more funds for the new school year would disgust most people. There are a lot of dedicated teachers but there are nearly as many morons that work with our children. Yes, I'm sounding off.
Barry legit
12:52 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Chris Is the Committee down to El Crystal and Crestmoor already?
Heidi Beck
8:24 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
These are the schools that are perennially under discussion because they are so small.
Barry legit
10:42 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Thank you John and Heidi, After looking at the information on the Sbpsd.k12 website these schools preform well, why is the size an factor? I understand the committee is looking at each school in the district .All schools should be ranked with and overall score so the public can better understand why we have to close a school. So why is Crestmoor and El Crystal always the first two Schools people talk about that are being closed? just size? from an outsider it seems the school board has put this committee in a tough spot !!
Martin Ricard
10:47 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
All good points, Barry legit. Have you taken a look at the original study that was done about this issue? If not, it might provide some more insight. It's attached to this story: http://patch.com/A-nlGT. It's also on the school district's website.
Barry legit
11:04 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Thank you Martin here is the link http://sbpsd.k12.ca.us/ddac.htm
Chris Kiely
5:08 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
Barry- no, they haven't included or excluded anyone yet. They are applying the criteria to all schools.
John Marinos
7:44 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
barry, there has been one meeting and there was no talk of closing a specific school.
Heidi Beck
2:07 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
Barry, size always comes up because it's not as subjective as some of the other criteria. Another reason discussion of boundaries and "home school" comes up is that Crestmoor for many years (don't know if this is still the case) was ( still is?) significantly populated by intradistrict transfers, and that if these kids would go back to their neighborhood schools by address, there would be so few kids at Crestmoor that it would be hard to justify keeping that school open.
Chris Kiely
5:11 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
I think there are roughly 90 kids currently living in the Crestmoor attendence area.
Chris Kiely
5:16 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012
One factor making things worse now is the loss of Class Size Reduction. When K-3 were at 20 kids per class, it was easier to juggle things. for example, if you only had 16 kids at a grade level, you only need 3 or 4 more to make a full class. Now you need 12-15, or else you have an extra split class.
Suddenly, they were in the business of large-scale involuntary transfers to fill classes up.
Also, parents were much more open minded about split class when it was only 20 kids. It's a much harder sell with 31.
Heidi Beck
5:02 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I hope the committe isn't restricted to the listed criteria only and can consider other factors. For instance, El Crystal is a demonstration center for educational technology, and every classroom has amazing equipment that the teachers use every day. I don't think any other school in the district is as "wired" as El Crystal, and this unique resource should be taken into consideration by the DDAC.
El Crystal's location next to city park is another unique feature that merits special consideration.
Joe Capote
8:58 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Your right about the demonstration center for technology Heidi. El Crystal also takes in a large number of students from other home schools, and takes in PI students from around the district. Furthermore, The city should also have input into this decision. El Crystal houses the police station repeater, and it's location next to a city park, which is used as emergency shelter could be beneficial. In fact, a lot of schools in the district are adjacent to city parks, such as Belle Aire and Crestmoor. So little time...